Archived Messages

Arranged by date with the newest at the top

05/10/2007

(Year two from Peter's Hill Primary School, in our Parish, visited Holy Trinity
 on Wednesday, 3rd October).

04/10/2007

lia clift

Thank you for letting us come to your church. The best thing
about the aftonoon was rinning the bels.

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callum newey

to the cherch r loved lesuing to the bells

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Zara Waseem

Thank you for leting us touch the things

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Francesca Mason
 age 7
Petershill School

We went to visit Amblecote Church yesterday 3rd October and what I
liked best was hearing the orgon.

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Laura

to mrs walker.I really enjoyed it. I loved felling how cold the water is.

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callum

I lkooi rid the bell.

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Chloe Holden
age 6
Petershill School

Yesday in the church my best thing was the urgen.
Thank you Mrs Walker fur yur turk.

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shamar

I likt the sag i likt efrefig evun the trufey

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jack french
age 6
Petershill School

I hoap you have goob time. are you having fun therein the church.

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ilikt the stag vere mut evry fig

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ABIGAIL JARVIS

I IN JOYED LISSIN TO THE ogner and i like it when you let us exsplore.
and i like the neels becuas they had loveliy patants the ogner wosed as loued
as i thut it was but it was very very good.the bells wher loued i was happy and
 my qwesn was why are ogners so loued it was a bit qwit but i still loved it and
 it was grat and i loved the widoweds they had a loveliy panant i now it tells a
storry and i all so saw all the medul that you had they were all sinyand i had
never benn bofer i rilly wouled like to go their again so thaky you for
ivoitin us and a cuss the plopl who in volled but i rilly liked the ogner man
 he was the best my dad thot it was a trik ogner c

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L Davies

Thank you for a lovely afternoon yesterday, all of year 2 really enjoyed it.
Thank you to all the people involved, it was super.

06/09/2007

Heather Eggers
New Zealand

Congratulations on a really informative website! Several years ago
my sister and I were searching for relatives on a trip from our homes
 in New Zealand and found the grave of our great grandparents Horatio
 and Harriet Booth in the Churchyard at Holy Trinity. We were really
thrilled and have photos as a keepsake. I see they are on your list of
marked graves. Their memorial is certainly quite large which I guess may
be because they were reasonably well off, being the owners of Booth Bros.
 Dial Foundry Ltd in Dial Lane, Amblecote. They had previously rented
premises at the Platts from John Guest. (I assume the Glassmaker in
he Platts Glassworks.) Has there ever been any historical literature on
 the Ironmakers in the area? The Booth family were certainly foundry
makers between 1894 and 1917 but probably even later as the sons took
over the business on Horatio's death in 1917. If any of your parishioners
have any knowledge of their descendants we would love to hear from
 them. My grandparents Ethel May Booth and Wilfred Chambers were
married at Holy Trinity in January 1919 by L.C. Littlewood as the Booth
family were living at The Limes, King William Street at that time. I was
 interested to note from the website that this street was named after
 William King, the claymaster. Thank you for the opportunity to send a
message via your site. If we get back to the UK one day I would like
to visit again.

26/04/2007

Ray Easthope
Australia

What a wonderful website thank you John and Doreen for telling us about
 it keep up the weeding and flower arrangements they are out of this world
catch you later
love
Ray and Dolores

16/04/2007

Thank you so much for developing this web site. I am a churchwarden of a tiny
parish in West Dorset (Total population 110) and struggling to make sense of leading
services when our one stipendiary priest is unable to attend. (He has a further 15
parishes to look after, so even with the help of retired clergy, we are streeeetched!)
Your website is extremely informative, helpful, and a great starting point when
 putting a service together. It also gives me ideas how we could develop the same
tool to help bind our team of parishes together.

Have you any objections if I present your website as a model which we can try to
emulate, and if not have you any objections if we actually copy some of the generic
pages eg Holy Days, Vestments etc, or have you taken these off a central C of E site?

Many thanks once again

John Colton,
St Giles Church, Hooke.

15/04/2007

Fr Antony, Jane & Nicola

To Everybody at Holy Trinity, Thank you for the lovely website and photos
of Fr. Paul's farewell. Although not with you in person, we have been with
you in prayer & spirit, the day when Fr Paul retired a day when we all knew
would come and you will all feel it after so many years of faithful service. It is
with affection and love that we had the pleasure in sharing ministry at
Amblecote from 1990 to 1994 and we will not forget to recall happy times
together and especially the wisdom of Paul's ministry that enabled me to go
 on and serve both at the Straits and now at St. Paulinus Crayford, where
I now am doing the training and it is not always easy! Thank you Paul for
shared ministry as fellow priests of the Lord and more importantly perhaps
your friendship over the years. May you have a long and deserved retirement.
 To the people of Holy Trinity, the interregnum will now be underway and be
assured of our prayers that God will guide the right person to service at
Amblecote in the future. May this time be fruitful and rewarding as we all grapple
with the real issues of proclaiming our Risen Lord to a confused and complicated
 world.
PAX Yours in Christ
Fr Antony.

08/04/2007

Liz Walker

To everyone who has contributed and that must mean everyone in the church family
to the events of today - Easter Sunday a huge thank you. It was difficult and many of
us I am sure were overwhelmed by the emotion of this amazing day. Mike's insertion of
the Flowers onto the website means hopefully more can appreciate the sheer beauty
 and talents of the flower arrangers and to appreciate the setting. For all the words,
the wonderful music, the organisation, the liturgy and the sheer numbers of people
who came to wish Father Paul well - a happy retirement and Oh how we will miss him.
 He clearly said we will move on and we will give thanks to God for Father Paul,
 Moira, Clare, Ruth, Pete and Jack and all those who have given and shared so
much today. Colin and John and Mike for making today happen so remarkably
 - God be praised

14/03/2007

Janet Bryan & Barrie Bryan

Hello,

Barrie and I attended Holy Trinity up until 1988 when we moved to Cheshire.
I was confirmed at Holy Trinity and would like to be able to send a gift to Father
Paul to mark his retirement. Is there a collection?

Barrie's Mother's ashes are interred in the Church yard and we would also like to
send a donation for the up keep of the grounds. If you could also let us know the date
of his last service we would love to attend although I am sure places will be limited.

Regards

Janet Bryan

28/01/2007

Liz Walker

I have had a query in my capacity as a local councillor from a local resident about
 the state of the church railings. Can we know when they are likely to be repaired -
please. I hasten to add that Dudley MBC cannot accept responsibility for this but in the
eyes of the public this is yet another eyesore on our landscape and will we please
rectify it as soon as possible. 

30/12/2006

The Revd Dr Andrew Teal

Father Paul used to come into Amblecote Primary School when I was a child there,
and has worked steadily and selflessly at Amblecote. I will give thanks for him in my
prayers and offer a Eucharist for him and the parish. Please let me know when
 Fr Paul's final Service is, I would love to come if possible.

27/12/2006

Liz Walker

Father Paul Tongue Vicar of this parish since December !970 is retiring to Worcester in May 2007.
Please contact the parish through the message board if you have contacts, reminiscences or wish
 to know further details of his last services at Holy Trinity.

25/11/2006

 gray (but not Gandalf)

Thx for the explanation below for the John T McFarland (first noted by me in Salvation
Army Carol Book) against last v of "Away in a Manger". I love this verse, try substituting
"people" for "children", makes a great prayer.

23/09/2006

Charles

I came across your website whilst researching the symbology of The Holy Trinity
with my son. What an excellent site, very informative and a delight to browse unlike
 some of the drier versions on offer. Best wishes to you all & thanks for a great tour,
you have a parish that can be justifiably proud of its website.
 

24/08/2006

Liz Walker

Together with a goodly number this evening we shared the opening of the
International Glass Festival in the viewing of the M.A. students work. There are
some amazing pieces of glass and the atmosphere, kindled by the light and
shade created a place where the skills, talents and dedication of the next
generation of glassmakers are truly worthy of their forebears. I look forward to
the churchyard trail to find the graves of local eminent glassmakers. If you are
interested in the history of the area and the glassmakers there is a series of
novels by Donna Baker ( regrettably out of print but still around ) which uses
the area. They are titled Crystal, Black Cameo and Chalice - worth a read if
 you can find them: if anyone has the first two I would be grateful to buy them
from you, I lent mine and they have not returned but I keep looking!! I hope
many visitors will enjoy the exhibition and share the enthusiasm of the students
 for their ideas, talents and skills

22/12/2005

Valerie Jean Cohen

What a treasure of a site. brilliant.
Dear Father Paul,
First let me wish you and your parishioners a very Merry Christmas.
You have no Idea what a gift this is, finding on the net the Holy Trinity Church,
there in Amblecote. My Parents Grace Thomason and Saper Alexander Webster
were married there in the war years '43 I believe, by the Rev. R. H. Fowler.
 Not mentioned on your lists. My Grandparents were buried there and are
 Edith and George Thomason who I am 100% sure are the ones on your incomplete
names list. When I was 11 around 1956, we returned to Amblecote for a fast visit,
having travelled around the U.K. and overseas. Mother wouldn't tell us why we were
 walking around the grave yard, she was very distressed. Only many years later did
she tell me that's where Grandad went! Also on your message board one Mr Jones
enquiring about the cottages where one of his relatives lived. Well so did mine.
The knight sisters, can't remember the number, I was three at last visit there!
Edith Thomason [deceased] was nee knight, who I am trying to trace at
the moment along with the Thomason relatives. I would love to hear from you and
any of the congregation that can help me. We lived at No 3 Primrose Hill Wordsley
where grandad died, and we 'Websters' moved to Hampshire. Since then both my
 parents died, I married [and divorced] and now live in Victoria, Australia.
God bless you too!
Valerie-Jean Cohen

21/12/2005

Anita Hillman

TO THE HUBBALL FAMILY

WISHING YOU ALL A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR.
 LOVE FROM ANITA, MICK, MICHELE, PETE AND JAMES. XX

03/08/2005

Joseph Jones
In touch with a very distant relative, geographically and genealogically, who has
 found connections with Amblecote. Her maternal gt-grandparents lived at Holloway End
 and then in the small cottages on the Main Road next to the churchyard from 1870
 onwards. Father was John James, b 1826, and Mother was Susannah, b 1842 but not
baptised until 1845, and who died 1887. Their eldest son was John William James,
b 1866. John and Susannah were buried in the churchyard and a headstone erected.
I recently managed a short visit to search for the grave, without success regrettably,
but did find the grave of what must have been their son John William, wife Annie and
children Lilian and Dorothy. So, is there a possibilty of a grave index with a
record of the locations ? This would be of great value. And would anyone happen
 to know how old those cottages really are ?
Many thanks for an excellent website and for any assistance you may be able to give.

The Memorial Index shows no reference to a Susannah Jones, this does not mean that
she is not buried in the Churchyard only that no headstone was found when the memorial
index was created. This index does have a plan of where the graves are situated and could
be viewed on request. I would suggest that you ring the Vicar - Canon Paul Tongue
on 01384 394057. Fr Paul is a fund of knowledge about Amblecote and may also be
able to assist with information about the cottages. The actual Burial Index for this period
 is now deposited with the Dudley Archives & Local History Services,
Mount Pleasant Street, Coseley, Bilston, West Midlands, WV14 9JR
Telephone 01384 812770. I hope that this is some help to you.
Webmaster

28/07/2005

 Mike Breese
I read the message from Graham Breese concerning the two brothers Alfred and William
Breese who are commemorated on the Amblecote War Memorial. My ancestors also lived
in Amblecote. The 1861 Census has my widowed great-great grandmother Emma Breese living
with two of her sons William H (born 1844)and Edward (born 1846)in Dennis. Her other son Charles
 (born 1848), my paternal great grandfather, then aged 12, was a boarder at Old Swinford Hospital
 school. I would imagine that Graham and I are related in some way. It would be great to hear
from him so that we can compare notes. I can be contacted via e-mail at lanehead@tesco.net

I also hope to visit Amblecote in the next week or so and you may notice me searching amongst
the gravestones !!

Regards,

Mike

17/06/2005

May I thank you for your very quick reply to my query about Private Alfred
and Private William Breese. I will now try and pursue the history further.
Once again thank you I am very grateful.

Kind Regards,

Graham Breese.

15/06/2005

Graham Breese
Hello,
Could anyone help me find out more about Private Alfred Breese and Private W. Breese.
These names as you know are listed on your memorial of the fallen during
the Great War. Also, could anyone tell me if there are any Breeses buried in the church yard.
The reason for me asking is that my ancestors lived in Amblecote during the mid/late
19th. century.
I do not want to put anyone to any great trouble.

Yours Sincerely,

Graham Breese.

From the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website it appears that
these were two brothers, the sons of William and Lucy Breese, who lived at
61, Collis Street, Amblecote, Stourbridge.
Alfred (26) is commemorated on the Ypres Menin Gate Memorial in Belgium
 and William (22) in the Messines Ridge British Cemetery also in Belgium.
The following four Breeses are listed in the Memorial Index -
A., Hannah., Thomas., and W. (The memorial index is not definitive in as
much as it is not a complete burial index, rather a list of names on memorials,
and it is still in the process of being updated). 
Webmaster.

06/06/2005

Suzanne Taylor
New Zealand


I am trying to locate the people who live in a house on the opposite side of the road to
 the church, high street, stourbridge towards Amblecote village, the house used to be a
Ballet and Tap dance school with blue wooden gates,I believe the owner then was a
Mrs Attwood.
Contact me at ukconnections@xtra.co.nz

Reply sent 06/06/2005

24/12/2004

Thank you, Michael Wass, for your greetings. I wish you and your family a very happy Christmas.
A memory of Christmas at Amblecote: When I was there, it was the tradition, on Christmas Eve,
for someone to be chosen to carry the 'Bambino' from the back of the Church to the altar for it
to be received by the priest, placed on a red cushion (held by Arthur Ball) and then carried
back down the Church to be placed in the crib in the children's corner. In, I think, 1968 I asked
Kath Nation, my wonderful sacristan, to do this. We began 'O Come, all ye Faithful' and Kath
set out from the back. I immediately noticed that she was walking in the most extraordinary way,
as if her knees were tied together and she had a very concentrated expression. She arrived at
the altar rail, where Arthur and I were waiting, and I bent down to receive the baby Jesus.
She said something very urgently but because of the music I could not catch what it was she was
 trying to tell me. Twice I asked her to repeat it and finally she said, in a loud voice, 'Be careful,
Father, the head's come off'. Indeed it had and I had to carry the Child whilst holding the body
and the head together. Not many noticed and we had the usual, joyful, midnight mass.
Christmas and New year greetings to you all.

John Hencher

21/12/2004

I would like to say happy Christmas to John Hencher.

Michael Wass
 

14/11/2004

Thank you John for your good wishes and I will certainly convey them to Father Paul,
 Rose and Janet Hill, Mary Chance Arthur Ball etc.
Bernard Hewins was awarded the highest honour in Scouting this evening,
the Sliver Acorn in front of a packed church full of young and young in heart people!!
It was amazing and this in addition to his OBE from the Queen last year.
Marion and Michael Wass are now regular members of our Monday morning congregation -
Tom died in May and Marion misses him immensely. Michael shares a house
within supported accommodation and does very well.
I am supposed to have retired but still helping the wheels of education
to turn and love going into a variety of schools.
Mike has retired but he still keeps the railway authorities and
 the servers on their toes.
I do hope you haven't laid down the preaching cudgel completely
and are still keeping in touch within the Church in Wales.
 I did hear you on thought for the day once!!!
best wishes and all blessings

Liz Walker
Thanks for responding

12/11/2004

I think that your website is superb. Quite the best I have seen.
Thank you Liz Walker - I remember you with great affection.
 I retired only last August, aged 73 and although I spent only 6 years at
Amblecote I have very many happy memories of my time there.
My warmest good wishes to Fr Paul and to you all.

John Hencher

2/11/2004

When you can't sleep and thinking of all sorts of things to visit my spiritual home
via the web site was both interesting and refreshing. I've learnt things about
 some of our family through the war memorial page - thanks for that. the date
of the next meeting for the History Society - useful ( and a reminder of church
 council!) and looking at the Archive site I remember Harry Gardener and
 John Hencher from earlier days. If John visits the site again our good wishes
 and hope he is enjoying life (retirement) I guess. He must have been pleased
 to see the site and refresh his memory. He was instrumental in the re-ordering
 of the church in the 1960's and his reading of a Dylan Thomas Childs Christmas
 in Wales and his description in a children's service of the entry to Jerusalem
and the way to the cross on Good Friday !965 I have never forgotten!

Liz Walker

29/09/2004

just a thought, at the last meeting of the history society,
members were asked for views on a "home" for the history items collected,
 I think rather than leaving the church area ie ruskin museum,
the church hall or somewhere within the church itself should be thought of.
ttfn
ernie

26/07/2004

The last few weekends have been spent in Watchit (Somerset).
 I found a really interesting church (St Decumans) plenty of history.
The church has a school called the Knights Templar School

Ernie

22/07/2004

Your resources on Sadhu Sundar Singh

Just noticed the pictures, and the short bio of him on your website, so...

People who visit your site, searching for a complete book by Sadhu Sundar Singh,
might be very interested in "Wisdom of the Sadhu". This online book can be read
either online as as a series of articles, or downloaded as an 207 page Ebook.
Please consider linking to it.
Bruderhof Communities - Wisdom of the Sadhu by Sadhu Sundar Singh
http://www.bruderhof.com/e-books/WisdomSadhu.htm
Rene LeBlanc Bruderhof Web Team

22/04/2004
hi every one
Father Paul has mentioned and included in his sermons lately The Pelican feeding her 
young. This prompted me to ask questions on other web sites about the meaning.
The Pelican as Farther Paul says is feeding her young with her blood.
I am not very good at putting into words the church meaning and the work of
 the Lord but the thought is there and I understand.
I am a member of a society that has used the Pelican for the very same reason for 
over 500 hundred years, which is all very interesting and helpful in life's studies.
thank you
ernie

02/04/2004
William Granger
I looked over your website, and thought it has a great deal of interesting information. 
Looking at your pictures, wondered if there was a listing of who is buried in your cemetery. 
Any Graingers or Coxes?  

Dear William, thank you for your message. We do have a list of burials in the Churchyard which
was completed a number of years ago. Two of our lady members are in the very process of 
updating the list but this is a long and rather tedious job. If you would care to send your
 e-mail address to me at webmaster I will endeavour to provide an answer
to your question. 
It may be helpful if you could provide more details of the people you are looking for such as 
forenames and approximate dates of death. 
Webmaster. 

29/02/2004
Hi Jim,
Welcome to the parish. We are a friendly lot.
Come and join us for coffee after Sunday Mass and you will soon get to know people.
Lyn.

26/02/2004
Hello
How are you all doing? I would just to say I am new to my local parish and does anyone 
want to talk to me? 
I am a lonely soul.
 Jim Lebert

25/01/04
mike just had to mention,
your help with the organ music last Sunday 18/01/2004 went down very well .
I did mean to call and thank you.
all the best
ernie

Thanks Ernie,
I think we have someone who can do the job professionally about to join us.
Mike.

24/01/04
Thanks for the information. I still think 4 purple candles look better!
Eirlyn

23/01/04
Advent is a penitential season, just like Lent. We are called to fast, to pray, and to perform good works
 to prepare ourselves for the great Feast of Christmas. The liturgical colour of violet, or purple, symbolises humility 
and penitence. This is why the candles of the Advent Wreath are purple, with the exception of the third
 candle, which is rose, or pink. On the Third Sunday of Advent, the 'mood' lifts as the Church begins to
 look forward to the Coming of the Christ Child, and this joyful waiting is represented
 by the lighter colour of the candle and vestments.'
This is quoted from the Catholic Encyclopaedia for Advent - I hope that this helps.
Webmaster.

Can anyone please let me know what is the significance of the pink candle on the Advent Wreath?
And on what Sunday should it be lit? I was once told we should light it on the 3rd Sunday
 when the Epistle tells us to 'rejoice'. But what has pink to do with rejoicing?
Someone else thought we should light it on Advent 4 to represent Mary. But I 
always associate Mary with blue, not pink. I should be grateful if someone could enlighten me -- 
not that it really matters as we prefer to have four candles of the same colour. But each
 Advent when the candles arrive and someone asks why one is pink, it would be good if I had the right
 answer.
Eirlyn

21/01/04
hi mike
thanks for the link this is one I visited .
the catholic one is more informative I think but other sights as well have a lot to explore,
ernie

I shall add that link too for you ernie
Mike

20/01/2004
hi
just visited Walsingham web page loads of info and a lot of sites to visit with some good photos,
which must be nice for those who have had the pleasure to visit personally.
ernie

I have added a link to the Walsingham website on the "links page" for those who would like to look
for themselves.
Webmaster.

19/01/2004
liz
The Walsingham experience is something both Joan and myself would be interested in 
but at the moment will have to be put on hold however I will check on the web site. 
Rosslyn chapel is a place of interest to me also ,allthough I have never been.
A place I do visit  is Rochester Cathedral a mural is in the process of being completed/ 
John the Baptist and can be viewed on the web/
all the best
ernie

18/01/2004
Thanks Ernie for suggesting a message board, this is my first foray into such experiences.  we need to print
 out some of the pages so that those who do not use technology can see how we can tell the whole world all
 about us.  I think that is quite awesome. Some members of the church family are planning a pilgrimage to
 Walsingham in May.  This pilgrimage is an annual event and everyone is very welcome to join in.  
It really is a super weekend and yes Ernie the place abounds in ancient and twentieth century history as well 
as wonderful Norfolk countryside. It is a very spiritual place and we all gain much from the experience as well
as having time to relax ,chat, laugh and enjoy the odd cup of tea and sumptuous cake in the village.  
It might be worth looking up a website -I'm sure there must be one! I learnt a lot about a carol I have always
 taken very much for granted until this year, the Christmas prayer focus and the sermon before Christmas
 helped me to really look at the words again, and whilst I do like the traditional tune - I have learnt a new tune 
which I think helps adults to really think about the words.
Liz Walker

16/01/2004

hi
just visited the amblecote history page which I think is very good,
has any body else any comments or thoughts
ernie

hi ash
ernie from uk 
thank you for your very informative message ,
I have had loads of info on this hymn i think Lowel mason wrote this hymn
 he was a collegue of murray , kirkpatrick, and luther I think.
but I will research further.
hows hong kong
take care.
ernie

Hongkong Mon 29 Dec 2003 (5:30 am)

Dear  Ernie,
     The following may duplicate information that you already have:-

Away in a Manger: the Luther myth

Contrary to popular belief, and the notes in countless hymbooks, "Away In A
Manger" was not written by Martin Luther. In fact, the song is not at all
in the style of Luther's songs, and is virtually unknown in Germany!

The words were, in fact, found in a Lutheran Sunday school book published
in 1885, in Philadelphia. Whence the confusion? Apparently it began when
James R. Murray published the songs in a children's songbook with the
subtitle "Luther's Cradle Hymn (Composed by Martin Luther for his children
and still sung by German mothers to their little ones)." The poem may have
been written by Murray himself.

Luther did, of course, write a number of hymns, including the Christmas
songs, "From heaven above to Earth I Come" ("Vom Himmel hoch"), "All Praise
to Thee, Eternal Lord," and "Savior of the Nations, Come" ("Nun komm, der
Heiden Heiland"[translated from a fourth century hymn by Ambrose of
Milan]).

Away in a Manger
Words: Anonymous
Music: German melody

In 1224, St. Francis of Assisi was wrestling with a problem. The Gospel
message had become so intellectual that it was cold and dogmatic. "It must
be simplified so that it might appeal to the heart of the common people,"
he resolved. Then an idea came to him. "Why not dramatize the Christmas
story? The common folk will then be able to better understand the meaning
of Christmas."

So he had a manger and all the trappings of a stable placed in his church
at Graecia, Italy. On Christmas Eve, the members of his parish came to the
church, and there, before their very eyes, were Joseph and Mary, and the
Child in the manger. The people rejoiced! Christmas had never seemed so
real to them.

Since that time, the manger has become the subject of many Christmas carols
and lullabies. One of the best known of these is "Away in a Manger." This
song is generally referred to as "Luther's Cradle Hymn." In 1887, the tune
appeared in print in North America, with the subheading, "Composed by
Martin Luther for his children, and still sung by German mothers to their
little ones." The authorship of the lyrics has never been verified, and the
source of the tune is still unknown. Some say it could have been composed
by a member of a German Lutheran colony from Pennsylvania.

AWAY IN A MANGER

1) History. This precious Christmas Song--probably one of the first your
children ever learned--has an undocumented history. As with many of the
favorite carols and hymns, this one was thought to have its origins in
Germany. For a long time it was known as "Luther's Cradle Hymn" and was
thought to have been written by Martin Luther for his own children. Most
historians today, discount that. In 1835, stanzas one and two appeared in
the "Little Children's Book" published in Philadelphia. The 3rd stanza was
written by Dr. John T. McFarland (1851-1913) when he needed an extra stanza
for this carol to be used in a children's day program at his church.
 
Ashok Mahbubani

yes mike this is what I had in mind, only time will tell if it bears fruit.
er  

Dear Ernie,

I do hope that this page is what you had in mind.
Let us hope that it gets lots of use.
Best wishes,

Mike

Dear Webmaster